England Out – With Our Worst Ever World Cup Defeat.

Better rethink

*finished us off, not finsihed us off

how do i feel???? deep down i was rooting for england, i m always a fool every time!! forget abt the lampard disallowed goal and blaming the refs, it was an appalling team play by england, school boy defence and mistakes, lacking pace… terry shud never be played from the start of this world cup (morally and ethically speaking), the substitution of milner?? why?? he was putting more decent crosses in till joe cole came in, the german showed england how simple it is to go forward on the break and score goals… bloody useless…

I think the game would have went much differently had things been 2-2 going into the half. But, we had an entire half to pull things even and we failed. Overall I think the game was alot closer than the scoreline, but now it's time to count down to 2014. COME ON YOU LIONS!!

I said all along that we were poor in the Qualifiers. I had issuses with our defence as far ago as England v Croatia.
I said Johnson was useless. What the fuk is he doing in between Terry and Upson. Guess where the cross came from.
For all you Gerrard fans. Guess who was again going for Glory, how many hit the target NONE.
Lampard at least hits the the target.
Numpty Heskey was a useless replacement for Defoe cld not see the point of that one.

gerard or lampard…. u just cannot pay them together… sigh

terry shudve never played for england!! he's such a disgrace, what a mug

mind you, the german keeper had to make a decent save and denied gerard in the dyin minutes… i think the england got it all wrong, he screwed up too

stop talking about the disallowed goal… it's just one bad decision among many in the tournament, such as Klose's red card or the disallowed goals against the US or the soft penalty awarded to the Italians against NZ. Teams live with it, the refs are NOT biased, they are simply human and mistake-prone (apparently the ref said “oh my God!” at halftime when he saw the replay). Focus instead on how much England suck. I think Barry, even more than Terry or Rooney, was the one who screwed over England in this game. When Lampard's freekick flew into the wall at 2-1, he got robbed and the Germans scored off the counterattack. THAT was the turning point. And Barry didn't even try to get back and help. And don't even think about Hargreaves. He's done. Jack Rodwell maybe?

I think Capello sucks that is first to blame and he's system is looking so bad.You cannot just pick some good players and make them as one …

Apart from im going to take in form players (LIE) and not take injured players (LIE)
Why didnt Capello play Crouch who had a good season with Spurs, and why did they bother to bring Dawson over for Ferdinand if he wasnt going to play either???
Capello your CRAP

england are shit

anyone have some decent rope? absolutely gutted.

now you no what it is like 2 be roobed like ireland v france :L

sack capello
his squad his way of playing his responsibility

when we went into 'English automatic mode' free of capelloism we looked capable but at half time he took us back to Italian heartless rubbish.

Love how fifa have had that video removed due to “copyright infringment” – no fifa you just don't want to admit you screwed up.

ps I had Germany to win 3-1 I just knew Capello would not succeed.

rooney is not a centre forward everton know that he's a geuriller (sure that's not spelt right) and it's like asking a sniper to wear a flashing light on his head

crouch is our goalscorer why not put a team around him. If capello had no goalscorers then fair enough he has a goal a game striker and used him for 15 mins time to go

I have been right since blogging during the pre cup rounds I'll do it for £1m and give 5m to youth football

Totally agree….bloody useless. Lets not kid ourselves about the dissallowed goal. It might have made a difference had we played well but over the 90 mins we were well short of World Cup class.

walcott would make a lot of difference if he's in the field.

England were thoroughly outplayed. Suppose the goal was counted and it was 2-2. The argument that it would have changed the face of the game has some credence, but even at 2-2 the English would still have 2 goals to answer for. Face it, England were overrated again and the only one's that didn't know it were the English.

yeah it's always the next world cup for england.

I'm so bitter right now… I feel robbed. The call… wasn't even close. It was a clear goal.

Would Germany still have won if the perfectly valid goal was allowed? We'll never know.

2-2 is a completely different mentality than is 2-1, and Germany scored on two counter-attacks to put the game away (when we HAD to commit players forward). It's as simple as that – we were robbed. Not robbed of a result, but robbed of the chance of getting a result.

Good luck to the Germans, they played well and are a good team. The ref dug the grave and they buried us, as any good team should do- no sympathy, no mistakes. They waited for the openings and took their chances. I sincerely hope they beat Argentina, it's just a damn shame that the ref had to step in and spoil what at that point was an incredible contest.

As I've been saying all tournament, the reffing at this world cup has been ATROCIOUS. So bad, in fact, that I don't even want to watch the rest of the games (but that's probably just the bitterness talking). FIFA's “equality” agenda just doesn't work when so much is at stake. I'm all for having refs from all over the world, BUT ONLY IF THEY'RE UP TO THE LEVEL OF THE GAME. This has not been the case.

A big F.U. to FIFA.

Going forward David beckham needs to get his manager's badge ASAP so he can take over as England manager. At least, as an English speaker, he can, at least, talk a good game. Another thing is that he is mega-rich already yet he goes out there with the team to help in any way he can. Maybe we need our managers to manage for the shirt as well as players who play for it.

Second, for a long time I have seen England volunteer to become a ten player team by insisting that Gerrard and Lampard can play in the same side. Today Gerrard was meant to be our outside left! But of course his instinct took him into the already over-crowded centre of the pitch, as the Germans already knew he would!

On the subject of the game within the game, there was something of a Trojan horse ploy when Bechenbaur criticized our long-ball, kick and rush tactics. After that we should have known that that was the tactic they were going to use to get a goal up!

Expect half of the squad, probably including Rooney (even now talking on his mobile to Paul Scholes) to announce their resignation from international football to concentrate on their club careers.

As for Capello, he has, like his predecessor, won the real prize. No, not the World Cup (come on get with it!) but a multi-million pound pay-off from the FA for terminating his appointment. Grounds for wild celebration (in private where a certain football manager and his family won't be seen) I wouldn't wonder!

We are the suckers of the modern world. We make other suckers look like bungling amateurs in comparison!

England fans you have the future of British football in your hands. Tell the FA to resign- all of them who had anything to do with capello (especially his contract extension). Use facebook and any other blogging sites to make it clear they have to go (no one goes to an England game till the're gone).

Then the England manager has to be british and all UK games stop in January so the England squad is able to train for a month mid season in tournament years. It's not all doom we were crap today and if FIFA's pure hatred of us hadn't upset our being level it could have all been different but why didn't fabio go 3 at the back the 2 coles as wingbacks (old fashioned half backs) lamps and gerrard with rooney playing behind crouch and defoe. when we are 3 up take off a forward and add a holder in the middle of the park.

We need in England ” A System”. Our current one is crystallised and simply does not function
freely..there is no fluidity, no collective moving conscience, a divine sparkle and speed all are missing. Sorry !

England only have themselves to be blamed….they have full of so called “stars” who are so rich but I don't think they are patriotic enough…I personally think they have the attitude of “why should we work so hard? we have made so much money elsewhere”…anyway the players should be replaced and just look at the Germans, they are full of youngsters….

Good point Colin. The guys at the top always seem to screw up. Apparently a clause in Capello's contract allowing for him to be sacked without paying him compensation, was removed prior to the World Cup. Are they stupid or what ?

I'm Netherlands fan. I'm sorry for England, and i now it was just referee wrong decision, i know england can back to the game if the resut was 2-2. i hate germany, and i hope netherland will kill them for ours and england. i just to say “all england fans plz know netherland fans are sorry too for this wrong decision.”

Yeah Germany deserved to win. I'd rather they thumped us at 2-1, this result is just too much.

Of course, this will be the result most wanted to see, because people don't seem to be intelligent enough to realise that the British press does not in any way reflect the English people's opinons. I'm absolutely devastated, but I feel more sorry for the fans that have travelled to South Africa only to be put through this bullshit.

I'm Netherlands fan. I'm sorry for England, and i now it was just referee wrong decision, i know england can back to the game if the resut was 2-2. i hate germany, and i hope netherland will kill them for ours and england. i just to say “all england fans plz know netherland fans are sorry too for this wrong decision.”

Pity England couldn't put a complete game together today. The blown call on the goal didn't help, but let's be real, Germany deserved the win. I'm just about at my wits end with FIFA on the replay issue. For scoring situations, with so much on the line given the intense media coverage, the excuses for not having instant replay are wearing thin.

Ha ha ha… You're out!..ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha!!!!!!!!!!!

They sure are.

Thank You Faraz for those few kind words – and IF I can bring myself to watch any football at all, I will certainly be behind Pays Bas – at least the Dutch play with COMMITMENT & PASSION…
Lou Gee

Yeah, blame everything on the manager and FIFA. What a cop out. The players need to take responsibility for the loss as well, they played like crap.

We already knew that – remember the Hand of God by the Diego Madonna

Yea, and tonite you die…

Now onward goal has to be given only when ball strikes the net and the boundary line may be removed from there as it has no significance……..

y'know donks, I thought this time (more than any other time) we were actually out to win the World Cup…
just goes to show – you can't believe any advertising – can you now…!

I was actually planning on trying to make up some assholish comment to finish you off, but your team did that quite thoroughly already. No hard feelings.

It's really very simple. England typically play as individuals, and have little idea of teamwork. When it counts, they always lack commitment, passion and belief. 3 Lions is what our brave armed forces represent, so please media do not use this to describe our woeful footballers. England's badge should be 3 donkeys. No one complained about Capello getting England to the finals. In fact most fans believed he was the right appointment. He probably still is. It is just that a complete clearout of England's largely useless and overpaid international footballers needs to take place, including Rooney, Terry and Cole. Well done Germany. When it comes to passion, belief and honour in representing your country, you know how to do it. England's fans can have no complaints with the overall game. They were outfought and outplayed by a vastly superior team.

Here – Here…

GET IT UP YOU ENGLAND GET IT UP YOU ENGLAND YOUS WERE UTTER PANTS YOUS GET PAID ALL THAT MONEY FOR PLAYIN CRAP HAHAHAHAHAHA CRYIN LIONS NOW EH LMFAO

Not surprising – most of them were placed wrongly by that fellow capello…

ALL MOANIN BOUT THE FA WOTS IT GOT TO DO WITH NUMBER ON BACK OF SHIRTS IT SHUDNT MATTER IF THEY PLAYED IN THERE PYJAMAS FACE IT THEY WERE CRAP ALWAYS AN EXCUSE FOR ENGLAND ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS JUST TAKE A BEATIN LIKE OTHERS

Never mind Walcott – what about the players he had there like Dawson, Lennon & Wright Phillips – all of whom would have played with Passion & Commitment and would (in my opinion) have made a huge difference…

lets all blame every1 else apart from who really mattered the PLAYERS if u can call em that lol they r crap and im soooooooooooooooooooo glad there out least we wont hear much else about great england lmfao hahahahaha

not sure that they can do that – surely this is in the public domain…!

Here – here

Yeah, you should stick with your Steve McLaren. Capello's England isn't a good enough laughing stock for the World.

If the players' performance depends on the number of shirt they are wearing, they shouldn't even be on the national team.

After the Algeria game I felt totally ashamed, we supposidly have world class players but how many really would get into a Brazil side. We are 20 years behind decent teams, if you watch teams like Argentina, Brazil and even Japan they pass and move. Today we looked doddery old men especially Gareth Barry, I am sorry but we need to stop playing Stevie G wide on the left and drop Emile Heskey. We missed a trick not taking Scott Parker and Adam Johnson and instead stuck with player who historically has never peformed for England. Come on Mr Lampard stand aside and let the youngers players have a chance. But the players are not totally to blame, how can you have a player that has 40 odd caps and a goal ratio of 1 in 2 and only play him 11 mins of world cup football, Peter Crouch was worth the risk. All I can say now is, for god sake play with some passion, remember boys you represent us, not your massive ego's. Performace related pay is the way!!!!

This team is not fit for purpose. Sack the lot of them along with the rubbish manager.

Hi Faraz M66,
too bad you have to hate Germany! I'm German and of course I root for my country. But should we lose against Argentina, I have no problems to wish the Netherlands good luck. They have a good team and are playing a good World Cup so they would deserve to win it. And guess what: some of the best Durch players are playing in the German Bundesliga, where they are liked and respected. Maybe you will also arrive in the 21st century, where we shouldn't hate each other …
Oh yeah, and the game today was great, of course the ball was behind the line, but England did too little in the second have to score the equalizer then. And Germany played real nice football.
All the best to the 3 Lions in the Euro 2012 qualifiers

Does it matter what number they wear if the are good they could play in their pants

I think the disallowed 'goal' changed the game. At 2-2 we wouldn't have been exposed at the back by those counter-attacks… But we should have played King instead of Upson…
As for the team, i said before the WC that we should have brought a “natural” holding midfielder: Hargreaves being not fit, we should have had Cattermole (but had a shoulder injury) or Muamba who was superb for the U21.
I also thought that Wilshere would have done the same job as Ozil for germany.
And on this evidence i would have taken Adam Johnson over Joe Cole.
Final point: the future squad (friendly vs hungary) should include Adam Johnson, Muamba, Cattermole, Hargreaves, Andy Carroll, Zamora, Phil Jones, Wilshere, Harper or lee Camp and Wickham.

England talentless, overpaid poofters.

as someone who is involved in grass roots football I can only express my anger and total discontent at the incompetent english players and their lack of passion within this yearts world cup.

We always say within my club, 'at the end of the day all you can do is try your best' – with england, that is a discrace as noone did that!!!!!!!!!!!!

you could tell with the post mnatch interviews, that for them it was just another game – no passion, no drive, no understanding of the english nation, no interest just worring about where there next sponsro comes from – I would sack the lot of them and make them pay for all of their expenses, and hope they get a very animated message when back in the uk from everyone across the nation and that all sponsorships are dropped with all players and coaching staff to help them understand what they failed to do!!!

Overpaid, overrated, advert chasing, money grabbing, underachievers.
No pride, no ability, no ideas, no passion.
clueless, gutless, and binned hopefully.
lets get in some players who have heart I don't care if we never win but for pity's sake try!

Should have played all 4 spurs players after the first game of rubbish lampard,Rooney,Hesky and the west ham right half can;t remember his name, then we may have had a chance a slime one at that

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Suffer, you suckers.

Well…first regarding Capello, With England a miracle happened as this is the first team he coach and fail to win a title. That tells a lot.

He wasnt a popular choice from day one, for not being British, nor he ever coached in the EPL. As if the previous English coaches were doing miracles.

The bottom of line, Regardless of the slogan /Insert any English player/ is the best /insert any position/ in the world, England severely lacks the needed resources to win a world cup. There is no quality forward to partner Rooney. There is no quality holding midfielder. There is no skillful midfielder to take the game and open spaces. You cant win a world cup with Upsons and Johnsons. Thats without mentioning some of the “bigger” names to avoid pushing unpleasant bottoms.

Its easy to throw names on the table. After the defeat, the players who were not selected will always be seen as the virtual men of the match. Even Crouch's name was mentioned as a world cup material, and I thought England had already gave up on picking workhorses to hoof 60 yard balls to donkeys.

May be harsh. But till England (especially the media) start putting everything in the right contest by keeping the feet on the ground and resisting the temptations of hailing the future world cup winners even before the tournament starts, nothing will change. High expectations before the event, and scapegoats/complains afterward.

And the first step in the right direction is keeping Capello who is more qualified than any other available coach to create a solid platform for the future. Change takes time, and need patience and humility. And that's where England face a tricky challenge.

Every competion its the same old story. The English press build a collection of very ordinary players into some sort of “Best Team in the World” Every time I tell you.
When will your realise that the team are just an ordinary middle of the table type team who go as far as they can in every competition before ultimately getting knocked out.
It will be the same in 2 years the same in 4 years the same in 40 years. They just do not have the skills.
Instead of expecting England to win everything be content that they get as far as they do.

Are you serious??

Jesus christ do you hear some of you talking about Gerrard not happy in the number 4 shirt and what shirt numbers do you think should be changed for next time. Real men used to play football, they didn't give a shit what number they had on, they went out and played football. The England football team is full of self important, overrated assholes (not all of them, but most). Just check out the way John Terry behaved. Coming out in the media and questioning the manager, I would of beaten the shit out of him and sent him home in tears, which is a state he gets in surprisingly often for such a tough guy.

Oh and did anyone see if Rooney was at the world cup?? I didn't see him. Strange considering how good everyone keeps saying he is. Fair play and thanks to Germany for putting that sorry lot of shite out. They played well and deserve to be where they are.

Shame the Spurs player were not put to better use, and they know how to show some 'team spirit. Rooney's petulant – not a team player, Terry has a ego that is dangerous and Gerrard looked at though he was hating every minute of the game (all games)! Defoe and Crouch would have worked hard together and I am sure they would have founds a goal or two from somewhere?

After seeing that Nationwide advert maybe England would have done better if they fielded Matt Lucas.

I'm German and happy to see that the majority of you seems to acknowledge that the better team won today.
Now, move on, build a new team with younger players and let an Englishman coach your NT.

Yes England played shit – they always play in “safe mode” (PC Speak) we need to roll back to the: Last Known Good Configuration!!

englang will never win the world cup unless they change their style of football they play. they still play classic football. if you look at the teams today like argentina, germany, japan, uruguay, spain, even chilli. they all play modern football short passes quick keeping it tight and always pressing on the oposition, and also to win world cup you need your best players to performe, or you need somebody who is creative like messi, argentina won the world cup they had maradona, france they had zidane, and so forth. we need a player in our squad that can take on deffenders, creat chances from nothing, a player that give confidence to the team, that all team play around him. i am sorry england does not have that.
for england to do well in major tournament we need a passionate coach that can speak very good english like guus hidik. and we need to change our style of football.
i am no expert in football but thats the way forward.

English supporters, we Mexicans salute and commiserate with you. Our two nations may not have much in common, but one thing that unites us is footballing mediocricity and continual heartbreak. Maybe we could set up an Anglo-Mexican Society for the Appreciation of Masochism?

sorry boys all of you who played against germany should retire from playing for your country you were a disgrace and should hang your heads in shame you all turned up for the money and nothin else you should all donate £50.000 each to charity you should all be paid a set wage of £1000.00 each month by your football clubs thats even if your worth that much its the fans of this country you have let down but not one of you have come out and admitted your crap at international level whatever club you play for the fans should boo you 24/7 thats all I have to say on behalf of the english people

remember 1966?

When are FIFA going to join the rest of the sporting world and introduce a video ref? It's available in most other sports. And they call football the 'world game'? Pathetic

I'm gutted right now. I hate people saying that the players don't care and they don't play with passion. It wasn't a lack of desire to win if anything getting caught in possession deep into there half is what killed us. Our players are not technically skilled enough to control a game as many of the other nations are. I think the problem is that we have a team of 11 individual stars who don't work together as a team. In the premier league these players thrive of having players around them who can win the ball and give them that killer pass letting them score. Gerrard hasn't been the same at Liverpool since Alonso left and i doubt Lampard would get as many goals if Drogba wasn't laying the ball off to him. They cannot all be the hero for england. The thing that terrifies me the most is I look at the premiership and i don't see any players who would really be able to improve the team we have. I can see this trend continuing for a very long time into the future. The only chance we have of doing well in a major tournament is if it was on home soil so bring on 2018…if we can even win that bid.

Go to FIFAs homepage to watch the highlights and you'll see that Lampard's free kick off the crossbar is included, but his shot off the bar which crosses the line is not. I'm not trying to blame the refs for England going out, but when are FIFA going to start taking accountability for the poor decisions?

Your English is as crap as our teams football has ben at this World cup.

England doesnt has a finisher and every other dept is lacking. A bunch of overrated and overpaid players.

They deserve to lose.

GO GERMANY!!

we will beat you Germans jajajaja Argentina all the way we will beat the germans for you england

Our so called World Class players are overhyped and overpaid but believe the hype , often taked up by their agents.Rooney and Gerard have one way of playing and are not intelligent enough to adapt to anything else.The root cause of this is in the route to the top;our kids are toooften taught that winning is most imoportant at six and how to win is to 'get stuck in'.Evidently other countries work more on technique at an early age rather than encouraging them to knock seven bells out of each other.Remember how many called Hoddle for not getting stuck in? I think Rooney apart from being not at full fitness suffered from the fear of getting sent off especialy after the friendly when he swore at the ref.He didnt realise that they have probaly gone through school having trouble elarning their own language because they were the hardest players who were going to make a fortune and it happened sure enough.Theyre rich but theyre dumb and the system has made them that way.If you look at many continental players they are brighter and have had encouragement to develop their brain as well as brawn.Other countries play with more tactical awareness than our players do.I dont like Capellos system but it cannot be all blamed on him he can only work with what hes got.Gerard beats a man up and gets away with it,terry is immoral as is Cole;selfish through and through.how can they make a team and follow orders?

England over rated, hopeless, lack ideas, they have no football sense,

Start sending your top players to the domestic leagues of countries that repeatedly win the world cup and you'll start seeing a marked improvement in your performances.

Gerrard summed it all up. At 2-0 down, they believed they could come back. But at 3-1 down, the game was killed (his words) – yet there were still 24 minutes left at that point. They only leave it on the field when winning doesn't seem too difficult, but frustrate them just a bit, and they give up.

The French Italian and English players have been digging their grave for some time now. They have turned into over tattooed showpieces bent on getting the best deals for their lifestyle and getting themselves in the media for sleeping with that, destroying a car, fighting in a club etc. They do not really give a shit about the hard earned money supporters pay to show their passion for their team and football. Unlike the supporters the footballers have become mercenaries – no flag, no anthem, no gear – this is just an illusion the loyal supports live by.

stop finding an excuse they are all useless. Germany had a better team thats it. What differance can a shirt number make. Or do they need a bomoh (witch doctor) to make a magic portion

REGARDS
PPH (The hunter)

come on..
every england coach fell in this gerrard/lampard trap.

coach capello knew this dilemma is the qualifying round, but seems to lost his sense about this in the final round of WC2010.

I beg to differ! Capello is a great manager and has many great success with Milan, Madrid and Roma. Also he has worked with many great talents along the way. It is your NT that is loaded with shit. Look at Steve McLaren, look at the success he had ever since he was left that pathetic job. I always get the feeling coaching England is not an honour but rather than the career suicidal.

Capello had better resign.

We have Roy of the Rovers playing for us and not only does Capello refuse to play him in the middle he ALSO puts him on the wrong wing. I feel for Stevie G, he always scores in the World Cup and he'll get tarred with the same brush as the rest of the filth.

Lampard is in there to score goals, real goals, not the ones the linesman doesn't give. He failed in 2006 and he failed again. We should have done what everyone knew was needed and dropped him, got Gerrard in the middle, because Gerrard actually does it for England.

Capello plays Wright-Phillips on the wrong wing 3 times! Luis Suarez can do this Fabio because he is TWO footed. Have you ever TRIED playing left wing when you're a righty Fabio?? If you had, you wouldn't ask others to.

Capello takes Crouch and uses Hesky – after the season's events at Spurs and Villa ths is: insane. Hesky on for Defoe when we're chasing Germany – “Well…” only Redknap was honest enough to say it.

Capello takes our only gifted technical player and doesn't use him.

Capello uses two slow centrebacks and is *surprised* when they get done for pace. Upson has had a shocker for West Ham this year and although I loved the header, the squad needed Lescott/Curtis Davis, anyone with a bit of pace. Carragher, Dawson, all flawed clones of each other. Especially – especially, when Johnson's positioning is so poor. Message to Glen: when your centreback gets pulled out, cover him ay? I never thought I'd yearn for the Nevilles.

And the worst decision of all, the worst, was Rooney: looking poor in the friendlies, not scoring a goal in group stage, yet he STILL plays in Germany game! The pressure has beaten him. Plus his ankle is OBVIOUSLY knackered and Rooney or the medical staff are obviously keeping it a secret. If you said to me, “I want you to play for England, up front, are you injured?” I'd say no as well!

It weren't working Fabio and you should have fixed it. But you didn't. You faffed around and embarrassed us. If it were up to me I'd invite you all to walk home.

You had better resign.

I am surprised I actually had the patience to read through all these comments but most are good comments and just wanted England to do well. I do agree Capello should go, not because he is not a good coach, but if you can't speak the language and has never coached in EPL how can he possibly understand and connect with the players. FA will need to come to sense too……not because of the shirt # but to allow the national team to have more time to practice and play as a team. EPL is a great league and one of the best in the world and the England players have the advantages of playing with and against the best players in the world…..C. Ronaldo, Tavez, Drogba, VanPersie……just to name a few. Lampard, Gerrard, Roonie are good players but they need to play as a team and not individuals. Football……afterall is a team sport. That's why Team USA was able to give them a hard time. FA needs to understand good results are of the national team is key to successful of football in England. The idea of a combined British team may sound more and more attractive!!

the hype proved too much for the sassenachs to live up to!

outplayed in every way, england lacked the hunger, the will and the way… the only thing they really got from this tournament was a “cap” and a fat wallet, money, corporations and the media all influencing player ambition have ruined the beautiful game.

average age of England 30 -average age of germany 25

The same story of a Over rated Team !!
England never deserved the victory. Germans played very well. The FA should find some young players who are more aggressive and passionate towards the match. I Think For englis players Premier league is more important than the World cup.
Capello Bring some players who are more passionate towards the country than if the Clubs @@

Thank God England lost, now we can get this rubbish off the telly! If England were not in the cup and Scotland won all we would hear are the results in the sports section of the news and hardly anyone would talk about it. The media have hyped all this rubbish up so now this bunch of overpaid louts have lost perhaps now the media will settle down and realise that England is not the centre of Britain; I doubt hardly any Scottish, Welsh or people from NI were even bothered England were playing apart from hoping they would lose. Now I am glad to say they have lost we can get back to reality and sort out the real problems with this country – self-serving MP's helping their Banker mates stay in money; bringing our soldiers home, etc.

I come not to praise Fabio Capello but to bury him, to paraphrase a Shakespearian text… Should any country's football manager be paid the £6 Million a year as is widely reported? What has the loyal followers and supporters of England, not only over here within the UK but worldwide, have to show for it? Capello did not have the strength, vision to take-off Rooney and replace with Crouch to head balls down to Gerrard/John Cole or Lampard/Defoe to fire shots at the goal, to an appalling German keeper, in short no backup plans, alternatives. Instead he brought on the non-scoring Heskey, to do what, miss more chances? Heskey lacks the ability, vision to run into position, place/guide the ball at an unprotected area of the goal.

So the Knife's are out, but where exactly does the fault lay? Does it lay with the those in charge of the FA who rewarded Fabio Capello with the post? What exactly were the terms, conditions of his £6M/year contract? Judging by the three earlier matches prior to this England v Germany match, very little! There are many who would justifiably say the FA and England supporters, like the media were conned by Capello and his entourage, taken on an expensive ride.

It is a point of fact that there is too much money within the arena which is UK Football–> Premiership–> FA. Many would argue there is, more money than commonsense. There were alternatives for the FA, they could have said to England born managers, the FA, have brought you through to your position and now it's your turn to pay-back and thrown £200k each to the Harry Redknapps of this world, for one day/week x5 managers, for 6 months for the purposes of coaching, training, managing.

Let us not kid ourselves, even if Frank Lampard's goal had been counted as being over the line, England would not have won. The simple fact was/is that Germany had larger, stronger, faster players who had been better coached and selected not by the German media but by looking at the qualities and talents of each individual player of the German side. But they didn't stop there, like a performance BMW or Merc, they fine-tuned their players. They took the time to understand and practice with the new Jabulani ball, to select players of speed and taught their youngsters composure on the ball, in the final phase and place the ball, in the net.

Where was the Roy of the Rovers Passion from those who want to count themselves an England players?

There is a case for the FA to look inwards, at themselves, at their failings.

Does Brazil, Argentina, Chile, Uruguay, Ghana have the money and the likes of the FA Academy and yet they produce talented players. So are the players coached via the FA Academy too rigid, too structured that they do not allow flair, individualism?

Much is made of how the England side had the best players from the Premiership. If we look at the Premiership, we see that the top 6 teams have many overseas players and have mostly non-English managers. Is not the Premiership the better for this? Many of these overseas players who have flair, talent ability did not go through the structure of the FA Academy instead they learnt their skills in deprived areas where they were allowed to innovate.

Over the last 20 years many football pitches, where youngsters could previously practice, play, innovate their talents have been sold off, for property developments, but what did the FA do, very little. What have the FA done to encourage youngsters out of poverty and into the enjoyment of the game of football, very little. Have the FA with all their wealth invested in local cities and towns, at grass roots level; the answer is no! Where are the footballers with dribbling skills, like George Best, Sir Stanley Matthews etc. have they been homogenized by the FA Academy into structured formations, precision, control and at the expense of natural flair, innovation, talent? So what have the FA learnt, very little it would seem.

What abaout Michael Carrick. Didn't you miss him as the others also did.

Michael Carrick is a quality holding midfielder – as is Paul Scholes.

Capello has to take responsibility for one of the worst world cup tournaments ever. Nevertheless the bungling amateurs who run English football have ensured he will walk away with a massive bonus for this failure.
The premiership based on excessive wages and greed mean that there are insufficient players to pick from and those that are eligible for England are over paid, over rated with pampered egos. Difficult to see where England go from here with the current system. Just pick from the championship?

How pathetic you are! I'm guessing your team didn't even make it to world cup?

now fabio knows how he missed carrick?poor midfildier of ever in englamd story.

Can we ask a couple of basic questions? Are these players from top teams, the answer is invariably yes, do they earn they places in that team week in and week out; answer, yes! Do the likes of Rooney, Lampard, Gerrrad etc excite there fans; yes! So why do they go to a world cup tournament, some no doubt for the last time and play like they did? They looked unfit, unskilled, have you ever seen Rooney pass a ball as bad as he did? They had no shape, no spirit. Before we let our emotions run riot and hang the team lets hear what the players say on returning to England. There is one common denominator, the manager? But lets wait and see, We were tense, under pressure, unhappy, look at Maradonna Happy, singing and players looking like a team who are happy to be there, playing with flair.
Lets see………………….?

England did exceptionally well compared to other games. They did the hand shakes without injury, frequently passed back to goal keeper without scoring own goal, brilliantly played within own half, won lots of throw ins. Things to work on for next time; play in opponents half, pass the ball accurately, try to run much more to break sweat, stop blaming others for own inadequate football skills. Above all don't lose skill in accepting EXORBITANT WAGES.

Payback is a bitch , innit ? Remember 1966 ?!

IM PATHETIC?LMFAOOOOOOOOOOOOO ENGLAND IS PATHETIC AND YOU KNOW THEY ARE TAKE A BEATING PMSL

considerin i aint english pmsl and im glad im not wot a let down hahahahahaahahaha

England have once again shown how prone they are to little events destroying their world cup dream. They were simply not good enough on the day, and lost, because Germany scored more (allowed) goals than they did. Events such as Lampard's brilliant (disallowed) goal, and one off the bar, and then capitulating in counter attacks when trying to push forward, show the cards didn't fall England's way. But every tournament has some event, ultimately a headline, or point of blame, that takes focus away from the fact that the team of champions is not necessarily a champion team and the side needs to play together, regularly, and build understanding and pre-emptive knowledge of teammates.

If England want to be as good as they can be, why not become an England outfit. Why not put in Shearer as manager or Beckham or any English football Icon if you think these are not appropriate, build a team of young and old with a focus to win the cup, play South American and International teams more often as a group, and become competetive on the world stage with a new style of play. England only think they are competitive because advertising and t.v. dollars make the market so lucrative. TV Ads portray Rooney being knighted and fantastic potential for the team, how was your world cup, Wayne? How can he get goals if there is no service from a conflicting midfield of Gerard and Lampard. One should be half time replacement for the other maybe. And where was any sense of urgency or creative play? Scholes should have been begged to play, or make Giggs a Englander via Westminister, England have not dominated any friendlies or Internationals, or more importantly World Cup games with attacking destructions of any teams. Some players actually seemed more concerned about where to park their 4th Porsche than working together to win.

No, Carrick is simply rubbish! He has been poor all the season: no energy, no tackles and either played short or back passes either lost possession…. The only suggestable alternative to Hargreaves and Barry in the squad was Parker but he didn't make the cut from the 30…

no use cryin over spilt milk

England were a disgrace, they should all be fined a year's salary, this money should then be given to grass roots sports clubs and not just football, they could soon regain the money with magazine deals !! Wayne Rooney is a disgrace to his country, he didn't even pretend to be singing the anthem, and most of the time looked as if he didn't want to be there, play him in the second team and he wouldn't be good enough for them, i hope they feel thouroughly ashamed

A little symbols game

1966 ? 2010 !

1: 5 ? 4 : 1 !

As for Carrick, I see him more as a quality box to box midfielder. As a holding midfielder, he is ok , but not as good as rated in England.

Scholes is too old to be in this debate anyway.

I love English football, but I must say:

all they had to do (the players) play decent football and respect the idea of a national team, Rooney's performance is disgracefull, he should be ashamed of the way he played for his country. I would say Gerard and Lampard were among the best players, it is the Defence and the Attack that made it bad for England.

Look at the way Maradona hugs and kisses his players, you would realise that it is natural that Argentina has made it to the Quarter Final. Look at the disharmony among the English players and management…

the English players simply played each match as if someone was forcing them to do so, it was like everyone was asking himself: when will this be over? I'd rather be home!

I haven't read all of these comments yet but have read most of them and get the general gist of where they are going. Nobody as yet seems to have mentioned the main factor in Englands shocking performance.

The players are massive pussies and fall to pieces under any kind of pressure. This has nothing to do with Capello or his staff and everything to do with the players. Getting rid of Capello now and giving in to the baying mob of idiots whose main criteria for selecting an England manager seems to be whether he is English or not would only take us backwards. Anybody with half a brain can see that Capello had England playing the best football they had played for a decade during the qualifying campaign. Nobody was complaining about him then apart from the aforementioned anti-foreign morons. We need to stick with Capello and go with youth. Certain players should never be considered for selection again. I include David James, Robert Green, Ashley Cole, John Terry, Jamie Carragher, Rio Ferdinand, Frank Lampard, Steven Gerrard and David Beckham. Most of the players on that list have had enough time to produce and they haven't done it on enough occasions. Cole and Terry should go because they are both snivelling wastes of space whose presence only serves to destabalise the rest of the team. Lampard and Gerrard have had their day. Quality players both and very hard to replace but we need to grasp the nettle now and strike while the iron is hot and so forth. Capello needs to get a new core of young players and instill his discipline on them and stop them from becoming the self serving publicity whores that Terry and Cole have become. Also we need to build the team around Wayne Rooney. Crap as he has been at this tournament we all know he will come again.

Gentlemen. I love England, my home, my heart. But I don't support the team. This is ENGLAND. And there's more to that than flags and loyal support. If you don't play as if you are playing for England then you don't deserve to be supported. Look at us. The Italians, Germans, French, Argentinians, Brazilians – all play as if they are they are the rightful owners of the World Cup and they play to get it back. We're more like – “tally ho chaps, with a bit of luck this could be our year”. It's easy to criticise but we are invited to criticise. England vs any crappy team would be described as 'there's no such thing as an easy international anymore' and 'the lads done good and worked hard'. Face it – not many are scared to face England. We need – 1) an English manager 2) senior retired players involved 3) more english players in the premier league 4) english talent leap frogged into the team 5) build a youth system that demands flair and nurtures prodigal talent 6) harsher rules that prevent whining players 7) get a committee of the top 11 British managers to compile their own report get Gascoigne et al to go out and find some real talent. For God's sake this is England! Build like you mean it, play like you own it, fight like you believe in it. Every England fan knows our first touch is poor and we don't have magic makers. Lets go out and find them.

Man! England vs Egypt… Want to know which side really thinks it would be a tough game?

Anyone who knows Football could see just how bad this England Team is.Forget the formations,Forget the coach,this team is technically inept.Sack the lot of them and get the youth ready for 2014.

Before we all get too dejected let's remind ourselves that to have won the World Cup back in 1966 was a major achievement when you consider that very few countries have won it. Spare a thought for Holland who have been runners-up twice in the 70s and who regularly produce players that are far superior in the skills department than anyone we produce in England. But no matter how skilful Holland are they won't win the World Cup because they don't have the right attitude to go all the way. Spain are the other great European under-achievers who also produce [...]

Read the full comment great individuals but their team mentality is never up to scratch (4th place in 1950 is their best effort). Like Holland, Spain won't win in 2010 because their mental stamina and resilience are not good enough to match the best in the world – Germany, Argentina and Brazil; it's pretty obvious one of those three will win. So, yes, England are in good company as big under-achievers. They have to get the mental attitude right before anything good will come.

England claimed they were tired after a long premier league season. I seem to remember quite a few other countrys have palyers who play in our premier laegue too and they did not make such a fuss. These pathetic overpaid playboys should be in the peak physical condition, so I suggest they shut up and accept that they did not perform. The were at least consistent awful in every match well done lads on that acheivement

FIFA block the ball over the line incident for copyright reasons, what a farce! FIFA are a disgrace, there is nothing 'pure' about appalling decisions whoever is the victim. Football is the loser and compared to other more sensible and progressively minded sports looks like a joke.

While watching the replay I wondered why the Germans long passes were pin point accurate, while the English couldn't hit a side of a barn. Then I remembered….they had access to the jubalani ball months before everyone else.

As usual England over react to defeat. As a nuetral i thought you played quite well going forward, Lampard played the best I have seen him for England in ages and could easily have had a hatrick. Defoe hit the bar. to compare this with the Algeria game and sy it's worse is ridiculous. When you watch the game back in a couple of days one player will stand out – Terry. He just didn't turn up. I have never seen a professional player so far out of position on so many occasions. The whole defence look rubbish because they were trying to work out what he was doing. If he had been sent off they would have been better becaue they wouldn't be expecting to be where he shoud be. Poor Upson looked like a numpty because he was covering two mens jobs. Ask yourselves why this could be? It wasn't injury, did he get a bang on the head, was it revenge?
Face it ONE man threw the game.

He didn't play very well this season at Liverpool, either. So I don't think number is the problem. He just isn't' as fit as last year.
He's season at Liverpool this year was a disaster as Liverpool's season itself. Now this is a FACT. He wasn't in his best form through the season and he isn't now. Fact.

It's just a number!!!! WHAT THE HELL are you talking about? A number they wear on their backs?? don't be a fool. How many more times can we blame the manager?. they played s**t. the English game is all wrong, our national team ARE over paid chav's. they only do well for their clubs because they play along side NON-ENGLISH world class players.

kids cant play on streets as parents say its not safe
society does not like kids playing on the street as they are a nuisance
so kids have to joing clubs and at ages 9,10,12 etc the flare is systematically trained out. A few who retain the flare may get picked up by bigger clubs, but because their multi millionair owners want instant success they buy foreigners, the brit players are still their just mot gettinga game, they get disillusioned and leave to play with lesser clubs.Where does the money come from, well the super rich owners and also the TV rights such as sky. That why there are no quality players in Britain not just england, because society has stopped “yobbish” kids pl;aying natural fun football, there is too much money in the game and clubs want instant success.
Get rid of the split between the premier league and the FA, and go back to basics.
Get rid of this figure they call beckham he was an embarrassment ysterday on the bench

When sepp's Germany are on the wrong end of REF's or Linesmans decision……

Haha….The english were so arrogant about the teams they were facing they got what they deserved, shown on the world stage as over rated, over paid shite.. Fair enough Scotland are shite but we know that and respect other teams. i am now going to do my usual of buying the team strip of whoever has put englend out. I liked the Germany top so was hoping it was them, thankfully the sale of Germany strips in scotland will go through the roof.

This isn't why England are shit BUT!!!…(or is it?)….PLEASE CHANGE OUR F**KING DREADFUL NATIONAL ANTHEM!! What bride and honour is there in asking a fictional Christian god to save some old woman, who just through luck (or bad luck) was born into a hideous, out dated, over privileged family?? And lets not forget, the old girl aint gonna be around forever! and we all know who's next in line to the thrown. IS THIS REALLY ALL ENGLAND IS ABOUT??? Religion and Royalty?? OFCOURSE NOT. Sing about OUR GREAT LAND and you might just get the players playing for it.

Haha….The english were so arrogant about the teams they were facing they got what they deserved, shown on the world stage as over rated, over paid shite.. Fair enough Scotland are shite but we know that and respect other teams. i am now going to do my usual of buying the team strip of whoever has put englend out. I liked the Germany top so was hoping it was them, thankfully the sale of Germany strips in scotland will go through the roof.

This isn't why England are shit BUT!!!…(or is it?)….PLEASE CHANGE OUR F**KING DREADFUL NATIONAL ANTHEM!! What bride and honour is there in asking a fictional Christian god to save some old woman, who just through luck (or bad luck) was born into a hideous, out dated, over privileged family?? And lets not forget, the old girl aint gonna be around forever! and we all know who's next in line to the thrown. IS THIS REALLY ALL ENGLAND IS ABOUT??? Religion and Royalty?? OFCOURSE NOT. Sing about OUR GREAT LAND and you might just get the players playing for it.

John, Capello a GREAT Manager, your having a laugh.
First we were told ON FORM AND FIT players wld be selected to go/play in the finals.
So we take KING, who has been in and out with injuries all SEASON. A big question mark on his selection on his season's history. Capello got it wrong 1. 1 Game Played 45 minutes out for next 2 matches with Injury, surprise surprise.
So we take BARRY who was not 100% fit. Missed first game, did okay in next, but obviously not match fit. Carrick sld have played. Capello got it wrong 2.
So we take Rooney who was not 100% fit. Yes take him, but put him on a sub in first few games. Capello got it wrong 3.
Capello got it wrong 4 Gerrard o0n left side, why, we had Joe cole sat on the bench who cld played behind Rooney or drop Lampard.
Capello got it wrong 5 Heskey is not a goal scorer, played like a donkey, kept getting caught OFFSIDE and that was when he wasn't on his arse from falling over.
Capello got it wrong 6, 3-1 down, you take off DEFOE and put on HESKEY, no you take off Rooney and put on Crotch.
Capello got it wrong by not seeing the system was not working.
Defend him if you want but there is no excuse for a manager who is not up for the job or has not got the balls to change things when everyone (except you) can see the gamne is crying out for it.

Thanks for those few kind words.
ARGENTINA will be a good match to sort out the BOYS from THE MEN, the MEN in blue/white stripes play football. The BOYS hump long balls up the park and hope.
The German Team will be KAPUT if they play like that against the South Americans, I sure they will score a few, it won't be Klose either, you will get Mullered and it will be Messi for all you KUNTZ.

gerrard is a selfish twat and lampard played far better. david james and frank lampard are the only players that played ok. all the rest r shit and should never wear the shirt again.

what r u going on about. we were out played for the whole game and would have still lost even if the goal was allowed.

Nine, Nine, the result was right, we got what we deserved, all credit to the Germans, (bah can't believe I'm saying this), a good thumping is what we need. The FA, Management teams and Players might just take stock and ask if we are doing everything right and the answer is no.
Take a look at the Premi teams, how many can put out say 6 english born players, none if any at all.
That is the problem we have in this country, we do not have enough players getting regular top flight football.
We had at one point three very good goalkeepers in Peter Shilton (Forest/Southampton), Ray Clemence(Liverppol/Spurs) and Joe corrigan(Man C/Brighton) to fight for the NO 1 shirt. Looking today at what we have and I see James (Portsmouth, Relegated) Green (West Ham, Bottom six) Hart (On loan Birmingham).
What we need to do is dip into the Championship teams if we have too and build up a squad of no more than 33 players. Get them young get them blooded and experienced before the next w/c. We can start now clear out and start again. We have the Euro Championships in two years, aim for qualification as a starting block, reaching anything past that wld be a good achievment but focusing on the 2014 W/C with a squad of experienced young players must start now.
Get them playing regular in different postions as well so they get used to it, an defender playing on the right should be able to fill in on the left if need be and vice versa, and should be able to drop into any formation at the drop of a hat.
Its no point staying 4-4-2 if the game dictates 4-3-3 or 4-5-1 or 3-5-2 etc etc.
My opinion on the squad of today is summed up easily with the words OH DEAR.

the football players are not worth millions, just to run after a ball, look at the world cup they let us down badly, they are to old we need some young blood not old,not even rooney could score. what a joke.

Hear hear!

he may have had success in boring italy, lets face it defending is their game. defending and boring slow football is not our game and having success at real madrid is not difficult, considering that they can buy almost any player in the world. we need an english manager who knows our style of play and has passion for us as a country. capello didnt care about the country, he cares about the wages!

Agree the GOAL wld have made a big change to the game, I think we might have gone on and won, the Germans were clearly Rattled by it.
Think we were exposed at the back, we went up much to early in the half, we sld have done that in the last 15, not the first 15.
Not sure on King tho, only lasted 45 in the first game so maybe Dawson or Carri.
The whole defence was a shambles, I saw Lampard and Barry tracking back for one of their goals, Barry left for dead on our right so what the FUK was Johnson doing not taking the man out, I don't rate Johnson as a Top Class defender anyway but he had the chance but for some reason ran into the middle as he squared it for Muller, why did't Johnson take him out yes he wld of got a yellow and they a free kick, but we cld have had a chance of getting bodies back.
I'm not blaming Johnson it was a poor perfomance defensively by all.

i agree. rooney is shit and leeches off of his man unt team mates. ive always said he is overweight and overated. btw man unt fans cannot compare him to drogba or torres, they are far better. the only reason torres hasnt scored in the world cup is because he has had 2 operations and hasnt quite recovered, however rooney doesn't have this excuse.

None taken.
Germany 1 England 5 on German soil. Arrr there is a God after all.

Nah he will never be in that class mate, not good enough for the 7, maybe 17.
He will never be world class, not A Beckham.

wright phillips did play in the group stage and was shit, but i agree that lennon should have been chosen.

Remember Germany 1 England 5………………………

is that so. i seem to remember a certain scottish world cup song that declared scotland as the greatest football team. you scottish r just jealous because you have only made it to the world cup 3 or 4 times. at least we have hope for 2014 and will more than likely be there. go on and support the germans you traitor, i would prefer to see the argentinians win than the germans.

There are a lot of theories, rationalizations, and blaming on here for the failure of the English squad but no one wants to look at the truth. Genetics. The English are not a very athletic bunch. Can you imagine what kind of team Brazil would have if they had the coaches and developmental support of England?

You may as well ask why there aren't more Jewish runningbacks in the NFL.

i live in england and i wish i didnt realy they have got the worst football team omg 4-1 propper shit ! england are the players get way to much stupid mount of money for kicking a balll about stupid ! it is rooney is shit ! the best player on england squard is david james and defo thats it the rest is bollocks cant even win againts Germany , the way england played Germany deserve to win they played much better england shouldnt even have a team there rubbish cant win anythink ! im saying booo !!! to rooney he fucking shite

ENGLAND ARE FUCKING SHIT !!!!!!!!!!!!! CANT WIN NOTHING !

i think football is should stop,it doesnt look like its fun anymore, everyone is only happy when there team wins, if they dont win, what hapens, FIGHTS,! its pathetic, why should they get paid somuch money to kick a footbal around, PISSES ME OFFFFFFFFF, STOP PAYING THEM MONEY, I SEL FOOD IN A SHOP U DONT SEE ME GETTIG HIGH WAGE AND I KEP EVERYONE ALIVE WITH FOOD, THINK ABOUT IT,

Wow. Troll thoroughly feeded. Germany later marched on to reach the finals in 2002. If you really wanna jump onto history, here we go: 3 World Cups, 3 Euros and 7 more final appearances. Also, two lost World Wars and a couple of bombers I don't give jack about.

Past merits don't mean jack, look at what happened to France and Italy. And England, respectively.

But in a more current and meaningful game, I can remember Germany having handed Englands asses to them in a 1:4. Feels almost like it was yesterday.

What a sorry-ass, sore loser. But for England, there always is “next time”. Pricks like you are the reason I don't even feel sorry for these kinda comments. If you have to draw your (national) self-confidence from football, go ahead and think about your priorities in life, you muppet.

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1966 ? < > 2010 !!!!

1:5 ? < > 4 : 1 !!!!

44 more years of suffering !!!!

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Dear Guest
If Argentina play as well as you show style and manners I will be more confident than I already am.
Greets from Deutschland.

Your post is rediculous and disrespectful to christians. We dont give 2 shits if you dont believe in god so keep your opinions to yourself.

i do agree with you on the whole, but the liverpudlians lets us down. rooney was crap and has always been overated. carragher was useless and dawson should have been there instead. as for gerrard, he played well against america but lampard was far better against germany. at least lampard scored a goal and hit the bar. gerrard had 3 wayward shots that were selfish attempts of self glory.

I am an old Yank that adopted football as my sport when I was young, and it was simply a throw away activity for the physical fitness education in school. Played as a keeper because that is what I was good at. This is my 10th World Cup as a fan and observer of international football. Grew up on the international game in the 70s, Cruyff and the Dutch, Beckenbauer's Germany, Best and so on. Had the true pleasure of watching the worlds best in the old NASL of America in the late 70s and early 80s. Wonderful football in those years. Given I was a Dutch fan in those early years, I have never been a supporter of Germany, but I know they will always be a team to reckon with. They just know how to play as a team, how to divorce themselves from the hype and attention on individual players, and just play the game as a team with the sole intent to win. I do not know what exactly it is about their system, their culture, their discipline and unselfishness on the pitch, but they do this year after year. So far in 2010, I would say they have potentially one of their best teams if they can keep stepping it up game after game. They say the team is young, but they do have some old vets on it too, and the team does not play with the immaturity of youth. They are loose, focused and very dangerous. Many teams this Cup have great rosters on paper, but my experience in watching Cups unfold tells me that is often of little insight or importance. Cupitis I call it, affects so many at the cup. Uncertainty of the players on the pitch with their teammates, the desire to take low percentage shots over and over in the hopes of Cup glory and a better contract, selfishness of key players, diving and acting, ball hogging, a tendency to expect fate to bring the game to you or worse, a tendency to hide from it and just hope it turns out okay, accepting that your team is inferior and will not move on. The teams that win do so because they see that as the sole mission, above all else and exclusive of all else. They do not fear a loss, they simply take one game at a time and play as if it were the last. They love to play, they love to play as a team, they love to win and they love to win in the Cup. They are not tense, they are not stressed, they are not panicked. Instead, they are absorbing the shear delight of being there and competing. They believe they can win against anybody at anytime. I had great hopes for England this year, but they performed as they have for all the Cups I have witnessed. They seemed disorganized, unnerved, scared and tensed for disappointment. They seem to keep looking for some piece of magic or stimulus that will open the door for them, rather than just playing the game as a sum of parts and not a collection of names. They have so much experience and talent, but no central belief, no central system and no central heart that drives them. I too feel that Capello should be replaced, and a UK manager picked up. Play English football, and play it as only the English can and be proud to do so. For my money, I was hoping that Capello would have started Lennon, Defoe and Crouch in a 4-3-3 against Germany, and mix up the lads in the middle and the back. At least the front line had a season of playing together and did pretty good too. Would have certainly surprised Germany and made for some interesting sub possibilities as the game went on. Oh well, that is just me. Sorry they went out, but they had not played well and it that is that. Lastly, I would hope at some point that Europe and South America would get the nerve to force FIFA into the new age or get out. They have the clout and the power to do so. Instant replay is the way to go to clean up the game and correct bad calls. It is so instant these days, that it would hardly slow the game down at all. Have an official in the booth to review instantly any goal to make sure it is clean and true, no offsides, no fouls and to make sure what happened to England does not happen again. He simply radios his findings to the ref on the field immediately. This can also be used to review potential fouls for yellows and reds, to make sure the call is right and if not, communicate that. Think of the impact this would have on diving and acting if the ref on the field knew what really happened! For what little time this takes up in the game, you can simply add another minute for stoppage time. No biggie. Heck, the amount of time we lose now for all the “injuries” is bad enough, this would be nothing compared to that. All in all, I will still watch every game, complain about the officials, muse over robbed plays and delight when I see a team play the game well and the way it is meant to be played. The game may not always be beautiful, but I still love it. Someday, if we in the US ever really get to understand how to play the game, we might even be a contender. It is good to dream. Special1TV is the best.

thank you. i have been saying that lampard had a better performance than gerrard since the defeat but gerrard fans stick by him till the end. he was selfish and played with no pace, rooney was crap and i dont see what the attraction is. i firmly believe that players like bent, huddlestone, bently, lennon and cattermole would have put in better performances.

Of course, that guy is a grade-A ass-clown. This ain't about politics. I'm not too fond of monarchism or any *god* either, but it's simply an anthem. And btw. – Rooney didn't even sing it.

Sure. I would love believe you're an Argie. But you ain't, just another sore loser.

oh was rooney in south africa !

not all the managers fault,,doesnt matter how good he is, all the coaching and training in the world wont make derby winners out of donkeys.

oooh must not show anything that might give that nice mr blatter a red face,,,,,,,,, little fucking dictator

Well done, BlackRedGold.

Traitor? Ha ha ha ha ha ha. Bit over the top, don't you think?

I have a different view. Look at the Brazil-Chile game. Brazil's long passing was just as good as Germany's against England, yet Brazil (to the best of my knowledge) only got access to the Jubalani at the same time as England.

Ha ha ha ha ha ha. Chilli is a food, dude. Chile is a country.

derp

this is bullshit to the highest degree..i reckon england wouldnt mind if it was the other way round..german ball crossed the line and no goal given..

where the f**k was rooney in the game??? bring back gary linekar or paul mariner..

100% agree with you!!

Johnson got his booking later on and he would have been suspended had we progressed to the 1/4 finals…

Then forgive me!

Very intelligent comment pube.

you also invaded poland and made your country shameful to the world,you arrogant tit.do you remember that little bit of statistics?

Hiding behind “None” is really classy, lad. Oh, hey, I forgot, since you're mentioning the war… you started it. Quit living in the past, grampa.

“I” particularly didn't do jack shit in 1939 because “I” hadn't been born for over 40 more years to come. But by that rationality, “You” obviousely got your lacklustre asses handed by an aspiring, young and hungry German team the day before yesterday.

Get a grip, you low life. If it weren't for the Canadiens and Americans, you'd file this complaint in German or French by now, supposedly. Dipshits like you are responsible for that the English NT sucks. There always is “a next time” for you, and it was bad luck all of the time, not your own failure. Get a grip of reality, suck it up and learn some dignity.

Wow. Death threats. That's something new to this discussion. Way to go.

Now now, dont get testy. there was just one rather successful long ball. The rest was great passing from a really good team. If you were a football fan rather than an ardent nationalist you might appreciate that. Personally I would love to see England play that kind of football, and I'm kind of sad that Brazil and France, who used to be the best purveyors of passing and total football have reverted to a more defensive/physical type. That Germany, the villains of so many world cup matches in the 80s, have turned from stiff heartless destroyers into fluid creative artisans is something all of us should be celebrating rather than bemoaing. Some of teh passing moves, the back heel from Khedira in the move that almost led to Kloses second goal are among the highlights of the tournament. I'll support Germany against Argentina, but more than that I want football to be the winner. Both teams should present a treat, and then the winner agains Spain should be a classic too. England v Argentina would have been nothing more than a tabloid feastday, highlighting personalities and dragging up historical incidents while sidelining the beautiful game. Germany, Argentina and Spain are our saviours against the defense first anti-football over mindsets of the Paraguays, the Capellos, the Dungas and the Mourihnos. So glad defensive Portugal was beaten as well.
So to summarise If Germany can transform itself then surely why not England and Italy too? Think positive, forget about historical bullshit and make football the goal.
Come on Germany!

Tommiekicker
Like the name by the way, Greetings old foe, giving you a taste of your own poision. Franz B, made the comment so you play the long ball too, like I said, Argentina will be much better equipt to deal with.
Better luck in four years, or two if you make the Euro's and perhaps we can meet again…
Now that you have some revenge for 66, what about the Germany 1 England 5, and on GERMAN soil.

Johnson wld not have been missed anyways had we got thro.
Point is, it is a TEAM game, he sld have taken the yellow FOR the TEAM, remember Gazza…..
Do I take the man out and risk missing the next game or let them score, either way he misses the next match.
ITS A TEAM GAME, yes I'm out of the next one but the TEAM is in the next round, that is what is missing from our PLAYERS, its all ME ME ME.

Lou is one of those who has a brain cell borrowed from a dead rat:

That is a nasty rumour stop spreading it around.

And Lampard was not at his best.

Before that England are due to Play Iceland.
If we win that we take on Tesco's then Sainsburrys

HAHAHAHAHA YOUR OUT

Ok, so you think I'm a “grade-A ass-clown” & “but it's simply an anthem”. granted, my post was meant in part jest but! WHAT THE HELL do you mean “it's simply an anthem”? A NATIONAL ANTHEM is just that! It's meant to cross all social boarders and barriers, inspire, encourage and bring all together in a common understanding. The English national anthem is called GOD SAVE OUR QUEEN???? I'll say that again GOD SAVE OUR QUEEN, are you f**king kidding me?? is that it??? I bet 99% of the people who sing it don't give the words/lyrics a second thought. HOW DARE you say “but it's simply an anthem”.!!! AND you have the balls to call me a clown!!!!

Keep my opinions to myself!!! How dare you, this aint North Korea Dwadaw!!! It's fresh coming from a Christian tho. 'Keeping opinions to one's self' is the last thing Christians have done for the past 2000 years. I can't even watch my national team play without first hearing the effect your outdated tribal beliefs have had on my beloved (once pagan) England. Ask them overpaid chav's that play in our national team what the WORDS to our national anthem mean to them….and I bet they wouldn't even understand the question.

And the dead rat might *STILL* be smarter.

If nobody cares about the lyrics, why bother changing them anyways?! The lyrics could be “Broomsticks, Lipsticks and Mary fucking Poppins” and the people would still be sing it aloud.

Terry had as much to say proper cockney gob shit instead of getting on with the job in hand and thats defending

Give us a fricken break your out you were/are crap and you don't deserve to win ****e, your players are only perceived to be special because your media choose to put them up on a pedal stool and the sheep beleive everything they say.

P.s. my tip for the cup…..Germany not because they beat a **** poor England team but because they play real football with a passion.

P.P.S. there is no future for the England team because you all live in the past…. 1966

Well I had to burst out laughing to that! Good one!

This lot of overpaid pansies make me ashamed to be English.

The idea of a combined British team may sound more and more attractive!!
You can not be serious ?
If the english boys are not good enough how bad are the Scots, Irish and Welsh then.
God put them all together and you get four lots of Shit, after all, apart from the irish how did the Scots and welsh do in the W/C, oh yes they did not qualify……

I am a football fan, and best of british to the Germans I was having a laugh with Tommikicker who lacks a S>O>H.
Of course the Germans are a good side and young as well and they will give Argentina a bloody good game.
Our team were of course shown what we are an Unorgansied shambles given a footballing lesson.
Where history is concerned there will always be banter between us and jibes, jokes and the such like.
Of course we can transform, we have too, if we want to be one of the worlds best teams. France, Italy and one or two others have not fired this W/C.
However, New Zealand in fact are unbeaten in this world Cup having drawn surprisingly to Slovakia, Paraguay and Italy earning 3 points. Great credit to them.
For this world cup there are some ding dong matches to look forward to, Arg V Ger and Brazil V Holland, Para V Spain and URU V Ghana. We cld end up with an all Euro Final or Sth American.
Personaly, I think Uruguay will Face Brazil and Argentina, Spain in the semi's.

1966, Historians have discovered that even the German Players agreed it was over the line having seen the footage again and again. Hurst and Peters both peeled away in celebration, had there been any doubt, Peters WAS on hand to make sure it was in. What is in doubt is weather the whole of the ball was over the line, and it looks like by simulated computer it was.

We are getting used to it. Argentina, Germany.
Red cards, Wilkins, for throwing a ball. Beckham for a sideways kick. Rooney for an accidental stamp and a moan and wink………
At least Henry had the guts to put his HAND up and admit it……

Yes of course it is smarter.
Anyways, with Gritted teeth may I wish Germany all the best with Argentina. Martin

Do we have a great land anymore.
As our German friend says, it matters not what we sing about. What happens on the park is where it counts.
I'm English Born and bread and I have never seen such a poor performance, yes we been beaten by better teams by narrow margins and from the dreadred Spot kicks (Bloody Germans, no offence meant by the way) but we were torn apart by a much better TEAM.
It's just a case we need to rebuild and reinvent out NT.

If what your saying is true, had Gerrard worn number 7 then and played on the left, he wld be a better than the numpty he was ?
So we have to come up with a change then as the numbers obviously do not work, be better with letters then, so here goes. Change 1 to 23 too. ooh, can't use I, H, O, Q or Z as they might be used as Numbers, that leaves 21 letters. Oh dear.
Okay got it, Order 23 England shirts with D on the back that's it, everybody sld play like dunce's now, oh, they already do……….

No thanks, I have respect for the Germans however much I might hate them (again) at the moment.
Just let the best Team Win…

If Buts and Maybes, If Green had not dropped one we wld made 3 pts instead of 1.
But had USA not scored against Algeria we wld have finished top of group and Maybe we wld got easier 2nd rd.
Yes if the goal had stood questions wld have to be asked but so wld the Germans, they wld need to answer about theirs.
Problem is, we have been poor for some time, ppl started getting over excited saying we were going to win the world cup because we slaughtered Croatia 5-1. Croatia played a weaked team and were poor even by their standards. We went on and got beat by a Ukraine side who really had nothing to play for. But we were going to win the W/C.
I knew we would not. I knew we had defensive problems highlighting Johnson as a weak link, he can not defend to save his life. Up front relying on just four goal getters Rooney Defoe Crotch and Heskey, that is only three as Heskey is not known for his scoreing. I wld have taken a fifth striker maybe Bent just in case of Injury or suspension or both.
The fact that Rooney was misfiring wld have caused him to be dropped.
The england camp is not a happy one, First we had J.Terry demoted as Captain that itself must have caused some personal and team problems and showed in the way he played at club and country level.
The same of course can be said about A.Cole, his personal life was also upside down. Then we lost Rio, so our back four questionable before we left for S/A.
I'm not making any excuses for the way we played, we were dreadful but we were going to win the W/C.
USA game was always going to be a gagey affair being the opener neither side wants to lose, on reflection, a draw was a fair result. I had estimated we wld be good for at least an last eight or semi.
I am of course dissapointed we are out, but I am hopefal the powers that be can see the problems and put in place a fresh young team willing to die for their Country only then will we have a chance of being the worlds best football nation.

Shirt numbers dont make the player good or bad the trouble is with England and their supporters is that they all think that there are none better but the truth is most are better
FACT
Delusions of grandeur is what the English nation has…and in 1966 there were only 16 teams in the world cup, 4 groups of 4
FACT
If you look at all the players at the world cup only a handful play in England
FACT
Germany outplayed England in all departments and if it wasn't for James England would have been totally humiliated
FACT

On Tuesday two planes landed in England …One brought back a group of overpaid, underachieving footballers. The other brought back seven coffins, each with the Union Jack draped over them. Footballers play for our country, soldiers FIGHT for our country. Footballers give ninety minutes, soldiers give their lives! I know who I respect more!!! R.I.P boys… Stand down lads…

I think that puts any sport into perspective…

That's right: you saw today that Suarez has sacrificed himself for the team and it worked well, De Jong did the same against Brazil…

You obviously aren't old enough to remember Argentina '78.

As an Englishman, I wld prefer Germany over Argentina any day.
My reasons are simple, 1. The hand of God from one of the worlds greatest players, a cheat..
2. A girly side ways kick from Beckham and the Argentinian went down like an express train had hit him another cheat….
I don't care if he handled the ball, if it had been us we wld be saying he got away with that, but to stand there and LIE about it is hard to take and has never actually said sorry…
Beckhams little kick out was very foolish and deserved a yellow but the play acting again is hard to take.
Germany since we distroyed them in Munich have moved on to become one of the top teams. They have got on and done the job.
Over the years all German teams have been world class and play football, no they don't always win but are an attractive footballing Nation.
They distroyed England the best way they could, playing football and of course I am bitter but I wish them well and hope they make the Final and that is very hard for me to say…

You mean Italy, France and Brazil then………….

It is time to lobby the government to change EU law and limit all club squads to no more than four foreigners (Scots, Welsh and Irish included) on the field at any one time. Also, a Great Britain side for future World Cups should not be ruled out

You can blame the schools for Englands lack of prowess on the world soccer scene, I grew up in England and went to school there, all the kids loved soccer and dreamed of being soccer players, we all played soccer at every oppertunity at school, during morning and afternoon breaks and all through our lunchbreak… with a tennis ball.
None of the schools I attended allowed us to play with a real soccer ball during our breaks or at lunch which is when most kids get the chance to play. In my whole 12 years at school we rarely got to play with a real soccer ball, and when we did we were all pretty lousy, as obviously skills learned with a tennis ball do not transfer well to a ball ten times bigger, different size to wieght ratio etc. There is no telling how many schoolkids had abilities that went totaly un discovered , or were ruined by years of play with a tennis ball.