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		<title>By: LJ</title>
		<link>http://england.worldcupblog.org/1/lets-get-past-it-shall-we.html/comment-page-1#comment-1155</link>
		<dc:creator>LJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Jun 2006 04:51:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Message for McThingy2.

There&#039;s nothing childish about any Scot who doesn&#039;t support England.  They&#039;re not English!  I don&#039;t understand why this question keeps getting banded about because my question would be why should Scots support England?

I&#039;m English but have Scottish friends and I know just how annoying it has been for them having to watch the racist and childish TV programming with the War constantly being dragged up, the anti-German sentiment is very much an English phenomenon and Scotland do not want to be associated with it.  My friends had to sit and watch their TVs while some English idiot told them that &#039;Scots should support England because our soldiers fought in the war for them&#039; !!!!!!!!!  Being in California means that none of the issues involved with England being in the World Cup actually affect your daily life, kind of prevents you from having any say in who the Scots should support!  It doesn&#039;t people&#039;s opinion of the English media that before a ball had even been kicked in this World Cup we had already not only claimed that we were going to win it, but had gone on to create the excuses that we could use when we didn&#039;t win it.  Talk about jumping the gun.  We&#039;ve had to cheat to get where we are, if we don&#039;t win it it&#039;s because we&#039;re not good enough, not because of the many excuses we&#039;ve got tucked away ready for airing.  

I remember when there were European matches that England fans were banned from travelling abroad to because of previous riots.  Due to having British passports, a number of Scots ended up not being allowed to go abroad to watch their own teams play.

When tracing back their family trees, many Scots have Irish and Scandinavian ancestry, some have absolutely no English ancestry whatsoever, so surely in sporting competition these people should be supporting Ireland and Norway or whoever.

I don&#039;t know any Scots that have an issue with England or English people, but I do not blame anyone for hating the absolute ignorance and arrogance of the English media and the English football team, they&#039;re not exactly a nice bunch of guys after all.  How would you feel if your weekly TV schedule got mucked around because a country you&#039;re not a part of was playing in a football competition?  How would you feel if your soldiers were dying abroad, and yet your newspaper&#039;s HEADLINE is that some idiot that slept with an old prostitute has broken his meta-tarsal.

When I go abroad with my Scots friends I notice a distinct difference in the friendliness of foreigners than when I go abroad with an English group.  The fact is that we have a fairly bad rep. abroad, especially our football fans, and Scotland often suffer for this despite being a separate country.  I think the sooner we wake up to ourselves the better, let&#039;s face it, we have some of our own &#039;fans&#039; booing England, but we expect other countries to support our team!

I go up to Scotland as often as I can because it is a noticeably friendlier place, where shop staff talk to you and have a laugh, and where people say &#039;please&#039; and &#039;thank you&#039;.

I think that we are the ones that need to grow up.  How often does our media slag off the Scottish football team despite the fact that Scotland has a tenth of our population, and there are very few countries smaller than Scotland that are placed higher in the World rankings?  Scotland has a majorly different landscape, different imports, exports, education system, economy and a different overall culture.  The ONLY similarities between England and Scotland is the language and currency so I think it is time that we truly recognised that and stop caring who Scotland support in what is essentially a game!

We should be concerning ourselves with the fact that there are now English people who do not like to be referred to as English (eg. my boss) because of what being English has come to mean to people.  We should be concerned that Scotland, Ireland, Wales..and even the Geordies and Cornish people don&#039;t really want to consider themselves as English.  Somehow I suspect that if we were a friendlier nation people would not be so desparate to disassociate themselves from us!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Message for McThingy2.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s nothing childish about any Scot who doesn&#8217;t support England.  They&#8217;re not English!  I don&#8217;t understand why this question keeps getting banded about because my question would be why should Scots support England?</p>
<p>I&#8217;m English but have Scottish friends and I know just how annoying it has been for them having to watch the racist and childish TV programming with the War constantly being dragged up, the anti-German sentiment is very much an English phenomenon and Scotland do not want to be associated with it.  My friends had to sit and watch their TVs while some English idiot told them that &#8216;Scots should support England because our soldiers fought in the war for them&#8217; !!!!!!!!!  Being in California means that none of the issues involved with England being in the World Cup actually affect your daily life, kind of prevents you from having any say in who the Scots should support!  It doesn&#8217;t people&#8217;s opinion of the English media that before a ball had even been kicked in this World Cup we had already not only claimed that we were going to win it, but had gone on to create the excuses that we could use when we didn&#8217;t win it.  Talk about jumping the gun.  We&#8217;ve had to cheat to get where we are, if we don&#8217;t win it it&#8217;s because we&#8217;re not good enough, not because of the many excuses we&#8217;ve got tucked away ready for airing.  </p>
<p>I remember when there were European matches that England fans were banned from travelling abroad to because of previous riots.  Due to having British passports, a number of Scots ended up not being allowed to go abroad to watch their own teams play.</p>
<p>When tracing back their family trees, many Scots have Irish and Scandinavian ancestry, some have absolutely no English ancestry whatsoever, so surely in sporting competition these people should be supporting Ireland and Norway or whoever.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know any Scots that have an issue with England or English people, but I do not blame anyone for hating the absolute ignorance and arrogance of the English media and the English football team, they&#8217;re not exactly a nice bunch of guys after all.  How would you feel if your weekly TV schedule got mucked around because a country you&#8217;re not a part of was playing in a football competition?  How would you feel if your soldiers were dying abroad, and yet your newspaper&#8217;s HEADLINE is that some idiot that slept with an old prostitute has broken his meta-tarsal.</p>
<p>When I go abroad with my Scots friends I notice a distinct difference in the friendliness of foreigners than when I go abroad with an English group.  The fact is that we have a fairly bad rep. abroad, especially our football fans, and Scotland often suffer for this despite being a separate country.  I think the sooner we wake up to ourselves the better, let&#8217;s face it, we have some of our own &#8216;fans&#8217; booing England, but we expect other countries to support our team!</p>
<p>I go up to Scotland as often as I can because it is a noticeably friendlier place, where shop staff talk to you and have a laugh, and where people say &#8216;please&#8217; and &#8216;thank you&#8217;.</p>
<p>I think that we are the ones that need to grow up.  How often does our media slag off the Scottish football team despite the fact that Scotland has a tenth of our population, and there are very few countries smaller than Scotland that are placed higher in the World rankings?  Scotland has a majorly different landscape, different imports, exports, education system, economy and a different overall culture.  The ONLY similarities between England and Scotland is the language and currency so I think it is time that we truly recognised that and stop caring who Scotland support in what is essentially a game!</p>
<p>We should be concerning ourselves with the fact that there are now English people who do not like to be referred to as English (eg. my boss) because of what being English has come to mean to people.  We should be concerned that Scotland, Ireland, Wales..and even the Geordies and Cornish people don&#8217;t really want to consider themselves as English.  Somehow I suspect that if we were a friendlier nation people would not be so desparate to disassociate themselves from us!</p>
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		<title>By: LJ</title>
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		<dc:creator>LJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Jun 2006 04:16:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I thought video evidence was meant to be being trialled at this World Cup.

Crouch&#039;s &#039;goal&#039; should have been disallowed, as the subsequent T&amp;T goal was.  I&#039;m not particularly for video evidence in football, but where imbeciles like Crouch are involved (let&#039;s face it, a 5&#039;6&quot; guy could get up higher, without leverage) there needs to be something to prevent them from doing it again.  And where a goal is involved it is only fair that the evidence is used, especially when the foul has been as clear as mud and visible to the entire world.  The France game would have ended differently as well, if evidence had been used.  Rulings could be made during the match, and up until say 15 minutes after, so that they don&#039;t get in the way of the competition.

Just because the ball hit off Crouch&#039;s head while he was yanking himself up on someone&#039;s ponytail, and the ball lands in the net, Crouch gets hailed a hero...was I watching the same match.  Crouch is rubbish.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I thought video evidence was meant to be being trialled at this World Cup.</p>
<p>Crouch&#8217;s &#8216;goal&#8217; should have been disallowed, as the subsequent T&amp;T goal was.  I&#8217;m not particularly for video evidence in football, but where imbeciles like Crouch are involved (let&#8217;s face it, a 5&#8242;6&#8243; guy could get up higher, without leverage) there needs to be something to prevent them from doing it again.  And where a goal is involved it is only fair that the evidence is used, especially when the foul has been as clear as mud and visible to the entire world.  The France game would have ended differently as well, if evidence had been used.  Rulings could be made during the match, and up until say 15 minutes after, so that they don&#8217;t get in the way of the competition.</p>
<p>Just because the ball hit off Crouch&#8217;s head while he was yanking himself up on someone&#8217;s ponytail, and the ball lands in the net, Crouch gets hailed a hero&#8230;was I watching the same match.  Crouch is rubbish.</p>
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		<title>By: Evilous</title>
		<link>http://england.worldcupblog.org/1/lets-get-past-it-shall-we.html/comment-page-1#comment-1150</link>
		<dc:creator>Evilous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Jun 2006 00:36:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So b.c u say my tnt warriors are harmless that means we must be victims of cheating? against all odds in europe against england and they cheat us, must make the english really proud to know they cant score without cheating!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So b.c u say my tnt warriors are harmless that means we must be victims of cheating? against all odds in europe against england and they cheat us, must make the english really proud to know they cant score without cheating!</p>
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		<title>By: Evilous</title>
		<link>http://england.worldcupblog.org/1/lets-get-past-it-shall-we.html/comment-page-1#comment-1149</link>
		<dc:creator>Evilous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Jun 2006 00:32:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Harmless? TNT is hardly harmless as they proved it against sweden hittin the bar and england when we were robbed!! but thats football and i dont expect england to win, they only know how to cheat!
it doesnt matter what u ppl think of trinidad, b.c i know how much we were robbed in qualifying and the injustice continues, unfortunalety for england, jack warner is vice president for fifa and the japan ref will never play a fifa game again! rasist or paid of that ref was!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Harmless? TNT is hardly harmless as they proved it against sweden hittin the bar and england when we were robbed!! but thats football and i dont expect england to win, they only know how to cheat!<br />
it doesnt matter what u ppl think of trinidad, b.c i know how much we were robbed in qualifying and the injustice continues, unfortunalety for england, jack warner is vice president for fifa and the japan ref will never play a fifa game again! rasist or paid of that ref was!</p>
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		<title>By: LLC</title>
		<link>http://england.worldcupblog.org/1/lets-get-past-it-shall-we.html/comment-page-1#comment-1124</link>
		<dc:creator>LLC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jun 2006 12:09:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>elAdi: I am not paranoid or egocentric, this blog is about England cheating, I was just saying that if it had been TNT say who had pulled David Beckham&#039;s mohican or Harry Kewell pulling Ronaldino&#039;s pony tail, those fans wouldn&#039;t be shouting then would they?!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>elAdi: I am not paranoid or egocentric, this blog is about England cheating, I was just saying that if it had been TNT say who had pulled David Beckham&#8217;s mohican or Harry Kewell pulling Ronaldino&#8217;s pony tail, those fans wouldn&#8217;t be shouting then would they?!</p>
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		<title>By: LLC</title>
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		<dc:creator>LLC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jun 2006 11:56:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Alex from Argentina, Yea we are still hurting and Yea you are still cheating!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alex from Argentina, Yea we are still hurting and Yea you are still cheating!</p>
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		<title>By: elAdi</title>
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		<dc:creator>elAdi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jun 2006 11:45:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LLC: I agree on the T&amp;T issue. They are just harmless. However, you&#039;re wrong on the other subject. People ALWAYS talk about injustice...and not just if it involves England (can we say: egocentric). Example: France&#039;s disallowed goal. it&#039;s in all the newspapers and online news I&#039;ve read so far. So, don&#039;t you get paranoid.

Generally I think: that&#039;s football! The sport lives of a good dive in the penalty box (at the right time, that is...not each single time you get into the box), the hand of god, the Wembley goal. The World Cup and controversy go hand in hand. And it&#039;s good this way. Leave the replays for Ref away, the sensory ball as well. We WANT TO talk, disagree, shout and yell about goals and decisions. That&#039;s part of what makes it the greatest sporting event in the world.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LLC: I agree on the T&amp;T issue. They are just harmless. However, you&#8217;re wrong on the other subject. People ALWAYS talk about injustice&#8230;and not just if it involves England (can we say: egocentric). Example: France&#8217;s disallowed goal. it&#8217;s in all the newspapers and online news I&#8217;ve read so far. So, don&#8217;t you get paranoid.</p>
<p>Generally I think: that&#8217;s football! The sport lives of a good dive in the penalty box (at the right time, that is&#8230;not each single time you get into the box), the hand of god, the Wembley goal. The World Cup and controversy go hand in hand. And it&#8217;s good this way. Leave the replays for Ref away, the sensory ball as well. We WANT TO talk, disagree, shout and yell about goals and decisions. That&#8217;s part of what makes it the greatest sporting event in the world.</p>
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		<title>By: elAdi</title>
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		<dc:creator>elAdi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jun 2006 11:40:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John Terry, are you judging this based on his performance against an inexistent Paraguay and a harmless T&amp;T. Gee, yeah, he is SO good. I&#039;m sure that&#039;s why Ronaldo sucks these days: he&#039;s got Terry in his head!

LMAO over here! Looking forward to the mediocre Germans ripping holes into the English defense! Deutschland, Deutschland...and England - Germany is probably the only possible constellation, where I&#039;d support the Germans! ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John Terry, are you judging this based on his performance against an inexistent Paraguay and a harmless T&amp;T. Gee, yeah, he is SO good. I&#8217;m sure that&#8217;s why Ronaldo sucks these days: he&#8217;s got Terry in his head!</p>
<p>LMAO over here! Looking forward to the mediocre Germans ripping holes into the English defense! Deutschland, Deutschland&#8230;and England &#8211; Germany is probably the only possible constellation, where I&#8217;d support the Germans! <img src='http://england.worldcupblog.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: LLC</title>
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		<dc:creator>LLC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jun 2006 10:38:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To Dt, your quote of:
&#039;Trinidad Tobago is out because England and Sweden will play a boring draw&#039;

No they are out coz they did&#039;nt win their games.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To Dt, your quote of:<br />
&#8216;Trinidad Tobago is out because England and Sweden will play a boring draw&#8217;</p>
<p>No they are out coz they did&#8217;nt win their games.</p>
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		<title>By: LLC</title>
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		<dc:creator>LLC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jun 2006 10:36:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Everyone is talking about England cheating, but if their team had won that way you wouldn&#039;t hear a thing! Talking of cheating what about the Argentinian&#039;s amatuer dramatics on the field then?!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Everyone is talking about England cheating, but if their team had won that way you wouldn&#8217;t hear a thing! Talking of cheating what about the Argentinian&#8217;s amatuer dramatics on the field then?!</p>
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